If you’ve never heard Carmen speak, there is a YouTube clip of her speaking to the Ohio Person-Centered Care Coalition about highest practicable level of well-being required at Comprehensive Care Plan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXiYOLQ7XoI and on the Surplus Safety panel at the Eden Alternative International conference with Dr. Bill Thomas at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXWwO-7s5jw